I am looking for sandblaster recommendations, reviews, etc. I am currently considering three models:
Cyclone 3824 from HIS Glassworks ( ), with an added pressure pot
Model 3045 from Glastar ( ), something like the suggested package, including the pressure pot
Rayzist's 2034VXA ( )
There's a huge price difference, especially with the Rayzist, and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it. Their Website has the best information, and I really like the idea of having the pressure pot, dust collection and media recovery all built into the cabinet.
Anybody have experience with any of these, or any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
* If you're serious about the Glastar 3045, take a look at the TPTools 960 pro.
If it looks familiar, it should. TPTools has been making equipment for Glastar for years. They used to mak their pressure pot too until TPTools got out of the pressure pot business. It comes with a siphon gun, and it's easy to add a pressure pot now or later as an upgrade path.
The Glastar 100 B-S is still the standard by which all pressure pots get compared. At $920, I think it's worth it. All the other units out there hold less abrasive.
The Rayzist unit holds about half the abrasive that you can put in the Glastar and is well built... The unit I used had a problem with clogging, but having a good understanding of how the pressure pot should work helped get it up and running again.
If you're interested in the Cyclone, then you should look at TPTools 780-TL
I hope this helps
* I'm not sure how much blasting you'll be doing nor the size of pieces. That being said you can get much more economical cabinets, and pressure pots from harbor freight. No they aren't as heavy duty as the options posted but at an 1/8 the price they are an option. I've been blasting daily out of harbor freight type pressure pots for 15 years and have had ZERO problems other than regular wear and tear. They aren't anything that technical so I can't see how one is worth $100 and the other $900. AS for the cabinets they are metal box to hold the abrasive in again nothing technical, the ones posted are great cabinets but a cheap table top unit like this may be better as it not's taking up a large area of your studio. Yes you certainly pay for quality and the previous posts are better quality, You can spend $300.00 for a cabinet and pressure pot or you can drop $4500 for the rayzist set-up. The rayzist one is all ready to go and a great unit, but if your only blasting a piece a month maybe you'd rather spend the difference on glass.
for $120.00 it works fine. After I sold my awards shop I used a cabinet like this for 7 years. Tony is certainly knowledgeable about blasting but I thought I'd offer a more economical option.
* Rick is right. There are more economical solutions... of course, I've seen people blast in a cardboard box. The biggest differences you'll find with the more expensive solutions are less leakage of abrasive and better visibility while blasting.
* Hi Barney Tony and Rick are both correct. If you don't want to put a unit together tptools would be your best way. I on the other hand chose to save some money and I did with no regrets. I bought a harbor freight cabinet and pressure pot and modified them. I designed my own dust collection system which brings exterior air in and exausts outside so there is no chance of leakage in my work area. I have a pab gun 3 mosture filters and compressor for a little over $1,000.00 and my system has worked well from day one. Another good point about putting your own system together is you see how the system works, I am not mechanically inclined like some on this board but when you put it all together you get an Idea how it works. A good site for more info is http//www.cuttingedgesandcarving under shop tools and tips.
* Thanks for your replies.
Tony - I spoke to someone at TP Tools. They said that they stopped providing units to Glastar several years ago. They also made it pretty clear that they only cared about the automotive market, and were not really interested in selling to a glass artist, or in supporting use of a pressure pot with their cabinets. A shame - they were high on my list, especially with the free shipping offer.
Rick and Bob - Thanks for the info and the pictures. Normally I would agree about the DIY route (I'm still planning to build my own loose-grit grinder as soon as I have the time), but in this case I find myself leaning towards the all-in-one solution. I have limited space available, and it's in my house. So a better dust collection and not needing room for a separate dust collector and pressure pot are pluses. And I plan to do some pretty heavy carving, so the improved visibility that Rayzist promises sounds good, too. I feel a bit like one of those cartoon characters, with two little guys on my shoulders, one saying "but it's so much more expensive, save the money, do it yourself", and the other whispering "what the heck, you're worth it, go ahead and get the fancy one". I hate tough decisions like this!
* What the heck, your worth it, just go for it. I agree, put the order in. Rayzist is much more money but they are a good company to deal with and will stand behind their products.
* Don't let the sales guy at TPTools sway you. They don't need to know anything about glass to make the best sandblasting cabinet out there. And they can say they don't make cabinets for Glastar... and maybe they have to under the terms of their contract, but it's pretty hard to fool your own eyes. Look at the smallest details: The cross brace on the floor is the same... so is the grommet for the air hose. Even the door is braced the same way.
That grommet is where the hose from your pressure pot enters the cabinet. It really is that simple. The trap door at the bottom is where you dump the abrasive and recycle it into the pressure pot. Add a five gallon bucket and 50 lbs of Silicon Carbide or Aluminum oxide and you're good to go.
BTW, an important point: This cabinet comes in one piece, on a pallet and weighs about 400 lbs. You need to be able to move it on dollies to get it into position. Don't even think about carrying it up or down stairs. The Rayzist cabinet weighs even more. The TPTools 780-TL separates at the legs, so it can be moved into a space, then assembled. A Harbor Freight cabinet comes in pieces in a box. You can assemble it anywhere.
* I seem to remember seeing a reference to plans to build a cabinet out of 3/4" plywood here. anyone familiar with these?
* There are a bunch of them on the net. Google sandblasting cabinet plans and select the images tab.